2021年4月20日星期二

Arguments: From Xinjiang to Taiwan

Funny arguments to educate some ignorant Chinese troll below the same video:

First comment (the start of the whole dialogue):

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Fair? lots of mistakes here:
1, Why do you call BBC as BSB? Because "BBC" is the "sensitive word" in China? You're so afraid that your video can not get online? So funny to see you defend a sovereignty who forbids you to say what you are defending for.
2, lack of regulation does not necessarily mean there will be the abuse of the rule. Think about Xinhua news agency. No one regulates it on foreign news, based on your logic, Xinhua news agency is a liar on foreign news?
3, most source comes from one man? Funny, all news agencies understand the importance of multi-sources. Don't you know the satellite source or your search was blocked by China?
Last, just one question: your evidence, including those from Hua Chunying, came from Twitter, can normal Chinese people get on Twitter to see the evidence themselves?

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You're so funny, "Chinese media would never ever ignite the hatred"? Really? Almost all mainstream media in China claim war against America, Japan and Taiwan, especially Global Times (huanqiu shibao) or CCYL (gong qing tuan), you want evidence to prove your innocence and peace love? You're really funny. When you're used to to lie around you, you are surely unable to accept any truth.

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That's the apparent double-standard: China's Official media claimed to kill Japanese and Taiwanese, you said you "never felt they caused hate",  none other western Official media claimed any war against China, but you said they were to start wars? -- Are you kidding? Don't "trust" any media, just examine them fairly, you would know your ridiculous double-standard. Do you know which country aroused anger and hatred? you got it: it's China. Give you a piece of quantitative evidence:
https://cinacn.blogspot.com/2017/02/blog-post_13.html (in Chinese)
See? The only country trying to arouse people's hatred against other countries is CHINA. Funny?

You want to prove Xinjiang people (esp. Uighur people) live good lives? simple, just prove they have freedom to live domestically, to travel freely, to speak freely, to go abroad freely. -- Can you? Sorry, you can't. Because we all know Xinjiang people, esp. Uighur people don't have these freedom. The detention camps and forced labor are regular methods against Uighur people. Just think about so many "sensitive words" in China's internet, everyone can understand the large pressure on Xinjiang people.


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No kill? Oh, come on, do you know any Chinese characters? Tell me, "宁可台湾不长草!也要解放台湾岛", "武力解放台湾是中国的内政" means NO killing? Are you out of your mind? Can you learn some Chinese character before you fool yourself?
Taiwan never hate you no matter who you are, but Taiwan is Taiwan, Mainland is Mainland. Taiwan is not a part of Mainland. If you claim Taiwan should belong to Mainland, then it is the invasion, an intruding war. Mainland China claims war so many times against Taiwan but no one dare to do it for real because everyone knows Mainland China would collapse if there were to be a war.
USA is not my Daddy, but may be the Daddy for so many CCP officials, including Xi Jinping. What do you mean "the war in 2017"? Then where is your anger from?
"If you don't like Jason's Channel you can leave": a typical brain-washed sentence. This is a youtube channel, anyone can comment here. If you want to be public and make money on it, then I can comment on it. You know what, Jason needs me more than you, because he needs someone to help him to heat the conversation so he can make more money. If there are only fans here, he would make less money. Pretty bad for you, huh?

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Your defending is so funny, how can you prove yourself genuine and true then? or how can you prove Jason's vlog is genuine and true? He did nothing but just repeated what Hua Chunying said in the press meeting, and you said He is genuine and true? hahaha, you're so funny.

Sorry to disappoint you and kindly remind: almost all other countries understand legally that "Taiwan is not a part of China" because there are two different visas. Taiwan visa is much more convenient than China visa. Taiwan "does not need to dare to declare independent", as Taiwan is factually independent.
BTW, President Tsai "does not have balls" of course, because she is a lady.

Maybe you should learn some REAL history:
大清国《大清一统志》说得很清楚:台湾不是中国的,怎么那么多傻boy还傻乎乎地“自古以来”呢?看不懂史书吗:
https://cinacn.blogspot.com/2016/01/blog-post_30.html
The history book from Qing Dynasty claimed clearly that "Taiwan is NOT a part of China", then why so many fools insist "Since ancient times"?

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It is NOT true of course. If Hua were true ("lack of regulations means BBC would spread fake news"), then a natural conclusion will be "lack of regulations means Xinhua News Agency would spread fake news". -- Do you agree?

Sorry, ROC's constitution says "Taiwan is part of ROC", not "Taiwan is part of Mainland". UN and USA and lots of countries admit Taiwan visa, which is enough to be an independent sovereignty.
I speak here because I know lots of foreigners need to know the truth of Taiwan, so it is OK for you trolls to make some dirty money on it

Stop being patronizing and stop looking down upon people stop being a racist!
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You really need to shout these words to CCP, because it is CCP who is the racist against Uighur people:
https://cinacn.blogspot.com/2019/01/blog-post_17.html
Try defend for your CCP money donor



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 the railway tragedy happening a week ago in Taiwan
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Thanks. In July 23, 2011, There was a much heavier railway accident happened in Wenzhou, Zhejiang, and Taiwan also expressed deepest condolence to the Mainland. But Taiwan would NOT learn the Mainland way to cover the truth or mute the media.
Your government should take more care about people's lives and life quality rather than wanting to get political capitol and fake political power.....very very sad!!!!!What a shame!!!!

To repeat what Hua Chunying the liar said would make you money, and you called this liar's money "the money for the justice"? hehehe, of course, why not? you are just one troll of the liar's government, of course you have to defend for your wu mao.

 "the kindness of Mainland"? excuse me, Mainland's kindness is always for its Russia daddy and North Korea daddy, never for Chinese. Think about how many people starved to death in 1959-1962 in Mainland.

Calling mainland is because both Mainland and Taiwan belong to China
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Your China is PRC, Taiwan at most belongs to ROC. There are two China's, like there are two Korea's. Your mind is full of mess so it is very hard for you to differentiate the two China's. Sorry for you, but you need a better geography teacher. Thank you for your stupidity here and amuse everyone as an April Fool.

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come on!! more arguement!!! You can tell me three CHinas!!!!
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Reading your hysterical comments is kind of fun. Just one question: have you read the true legitimate <Treaty of Peace with Japan> signed in 1951? You did NOT know, of course, or you would not get so hysteric.
https://cinacn.blogspot.com/2021/04/v.html
This is a link for you to learn from. Hope you would be wiser. You get wiser, you get less hysteric.


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Sorry to disappoint you, as I was slapping your face. If you deny the necessity of international laws and treaties and choose "power speaks", which means to rationalize the violence/power, then at the same time you rationalize the violence/power against CCP. That is, if CCP could oppress Xinjiang Uighur people, Uighur people could also use their violence/power against CCP, to resist the CCP terror with their own terror. <- and you rationalize all of it.
You always say USA use its power than international laws and treaties, the only reason why you did NOT know. Because in your education, CCP lied to you and concealed everything it wanted. So you have been kept ignorant. The more ignorant you are, the easier you got irritable. Funny, it is so funny to see you completely did NOT know  <Treaty of Peace with Japan> while participating this conversion, which is too hard for you.

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It is funny for you history-ignorant idiots who only dare to trace the terrorist attach to 2014 in Kunming. It is so EASY to accuse so-called terrorists' violence, but why did this come from? what is the source of the Xinjiang terrorism? You did NOT know. Why did you fail to trace the history to see how CCP oppressed Xinjiang Uighur people before 2014? or trace it until the early time of 20 century when CCP SUPPORTED Xinjiang-independence before 1949? You did not understand the history at all, so you got fooled and brainwashed by CCP's terrifying/disgraceful/disgusting logic:
https://cinacn.blogspot.com/2013/07/blog-post_318.html
Do you think CCP really care about Muslim or local people's life? You're so naive and foolish.
Whether USA lied to Chinese is not the topic of these comments. Why do you focus so much on USA? You pay tax to USA or you have lots of "Red Second Generation/Princelings" friends living in USA? "USA is evil" is NOT the proof of "CCP China is innocent", understand?  The lack of fundamental logic education made you brainwashed by CCP's fabricated textbooks.
And USA is not the dad of anyone at all. On the contrary, Soviet/Russia IS really CCP China's daddy. Russia is the ONLY country who publicly and legitimately SUPPORT local independence? Putin once said "Local people do not need the approval by the central authorities, by the government, to take the necessary measures for self-determination." Do you understand the influence of what Putin said to Xinjiang, Taiwan and Tibet? CCP China was totally mute and deleted all the Chinese news reports on this and pretended nothing had happened. Hahahahaha, so now you see Russia is really the DADDY of CCP China, even Russia slapped PRC's face, PRC would smile and offer Russia daddy another half of its ugly face.
I never say "what you hear from western media is definitely true", I said clearly: you have to think and judge by yourself, and think about the reason why CCP China bans the internet and locks the mutual communication in and out of Xinjiang. There is no 100% true or 100% false, but CCP China always conceals something and you know it is far less credible. That's it.
Maybe you should follow your own advice, i.e., read more books especially in Chinese. When you wanted to join the talk about Taiwan, you at least should have read some related history files such as <Treaty of Peace with Japan> or even Taiwan constitution as you took as the example. But you failed. You knew nothing about these files and made yourself like a trapped frog which knew only the cliche taught to you from CCP. Could you please jump out of the well where you dwell in? What can you see?




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